Episode Date May 13, 2021
Featured Guest Ian Leslie
Featured Book "Revolution in the Head: The Beatles’ Records and the Sixties" by Ian MacDonald

Episode Summary

Ian Leslie reading from Revolution in the Head: The Beatles’ Records and the Sixties by Ian MacDonald and discussing the power of conflict in creativity.

“Living is easy with eyes closed

Misunderstanding all you see

It’s getting hard to be someone but it all works out 

It doesn’t matter much to me”

How do lyrics from ‘Strawberry Fields Forever’ become a doorway to a conversation about conflict and creativity? Ian Leslie, bestselling author, thought leader in human behaviour, and Beatles nerd digs into the art of productive conflict, ridiculous standards, and the magic of Sir George Martin.

Ian reads from the book ‘Revolution in the Head’ by Ian MacDonald. [Reading begins at 8:13]

You’ll hear us talk about:

  • “Demanding the impossible.” [18:07]
  • Understanding productive conflict. [20:11]
  • “Conflict is essential to creativity and innovation.” [22:20]
  • Staying present in heated moments. [23:46]
  • The link between conflict and curiosity. [26:46]
  • Managing egos during disagreements. [30:09]

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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