Episode Date April 12, 2022
Featured Guest Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe
Featured Book "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl

Episode Summary

Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe reading from Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning, and discussing everyday resiliency.

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.

What’s the language you go to when you think of resilience? Common answers include, ‘bouncing back,’ ‘bouncing forward,’ ‘what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,’ or ‘a regathering of yourself.’ I truly believe that the words and metaphors we choose to use around resilience actually influence how accessible that resilience is, to us.

Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe has spent two decades researching, teaching, and advocating for simple and powerful language around resilience, and the way she puts it is beautiful; resilience is being okay. 

Robyne reads two pages from ‘Man’s Search for Meaning,’ by Viktor Frankl. [reading begins at 20:35]

Hear us discuss:

  • “The weight of the world becomes heavy to carry with two hands.” [4:02]
  • Describing resilience: “Resiliency is a verb.” [6:44]
  • Unlearning what’s ‘normal.’ [24:49]
  • What to unlearn about resilience: “Stoicism is not resiliency.” [27:36]
  • Getting better at falling apart: “Mistakes are not characteristics.” [29:57]

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Dr. Robyne Hanley-Dafoe book | Calm Within the Storm: A Pathway to Everyday Resiliency

Viktor Frankl | Man’s Search for Meaning

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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