Episode Date August 5, 2021
Featured Guest Joel Constable
Featured Book "Act Like a Leader, Think Like a Leader" by Herminia Ibarra

Episode Summary

Joel Constable reading from Herminia Ibarra’s Act Like a Leader, Think Like a Leader and discussing ideal leadership behaviours.

I started my career in market research, running focus groups. I was seeking consumer insights so we could find and build new products and services. Then, I moved into the world of leadership training and personal growth. Now I was after insight into myself: who am I? But, perhaps insight is not enough. Perhaps, we also need outsight. Today’s episode is perfect for anyone in the world of learning, development, and self-growth. I am joined by Joel Constable, someone who has been doing L&D for years at some of the most interesting companies in the world – Google, Pinterest and more recently, Intuit, where he is the current Director of Talent Development.

Joel reads from the book ‘Act Like a Leader, Think Like a Leader’ by Herminia Ibarra. [reading begins at 16:05]

Hear us talk about:

  • “When I try to introspect or reflect my way into new behaviours, I’m always going to be confined by what I know and how I’ve thought in the past. I can’t think my way into that, I just need to try new things.” [21:39]
  • The S-curve in personal development: “What got you here, won’t get you there.” [22:15]
  • Acting like the person you want to become. [24:17]
  • Being comfortable with failure and making mistakes. [25:56]

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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