Episode Date February 8, 2022
Featured Guest Kate Berardo
Featured Book "Bird by Bird" by Anne Lamott

Episode Summary

Kate Berardo reading from Anne Lamott’s Bird by Bird, and discussing staying curious in life.

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.

What’s your relationship with ambition? What parts of you do you want to grow? What does success look like for you, and how has that evolved over the years? What’s your relationship with perfectionism?

Kate Berardo is the Vice President of Leadership Development at Meta, the company formerly known as Facebook. She likes to call herself a lifelong learner, rejecting poisonous perfectionism and keeping curiosity alive.

Kate reads two pages from ‘Bird by Bird’ by Anne Lamott. [reading begins at 8:30]

Hear us discuss:

  • “To be interesting, be interested.” [2:10]
  • Being kinder to yourself: “It’s inviting to have a little bit of messiness.” [13:23]
  • Staying curious on a large scale. [17:29]
  • Finding your next evolution. [20:09]

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Resources:

Kate Berardo | LinkedIn

Anne Lamott | Bird by Bird: Some Instructions on Writing and Life

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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