Episode Date October 19, 2021
Featured Guest Liz Wiseman
Featured Book "The Road to Character" by David Brooks

Episode Summary

Liz Wiseman reading from David Brooks’ The Road to Character and discussing the intersection point between need and capability.

My surname is Bungay Stanier. It used to be just Stanier, but when I got married back in 1995, Marcella and I combined our surnames. ‘Stanier Bungay’ was never going to work, so, Bungay Stanier it was – and so it remains. When people get my surname right, there’s not much expectation that it’s a clue to who I am, where I’m from, or what I do.

But that’s not the case with my guest today; her surname and how she shows up in the world appear to be a perfect fit. Liz Wiseman is a unique presence in the management and leadership development world, and a wonderful author. She’s justly celebrated for her book Multipliers, and undoubtedly will be for her current book that’s just coming out, Impact Players.

Liz reads two pages from ‘The Road to Character’ by David Brooks. [reading begins at 16:14]

Hear us discuss:

  • What does life want from us?: “Magic happens when you have just enough capability to say ‘yes’ and start a project, but not enough capability to finish it.” [22:02]
  • Managing a plethora of choices: Recognising native genius and ‘blanket no’s. [25:45]
  • Impact Players: “Amazing things happen when you figure out what the agenda is, and then you work on it.” [32:26]

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Liz Wiseman | The Wiseman Group | Twitter

Liz Wiseman’s books | Multipliers, Revised and Updated: How the Best Leaders Make Everyone Smarter | Impact Players: How to Take the Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact

David Brooks | The Road to Character

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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