Episode Date July 19, 2022
Featured Guest Kevin Ashton
Featured Book "Finding the Mother Tree" by Suzanne Simard

Episode Summary

Kevin Ashton reading from Suzanne Simard’s Finding the Mother Tree, and discussing finding the thing you can’t resist.

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The book I’m writing at the moment is about relationships. I’m neither a relationship expert nor a psychotherapist, but they do say you should write so that you can teach what you need to know. This means I’ve been reading some of the big names: Esther Perel, John Gottman, and most recently, Terry Real, who has a brand new book out called Us: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship. A phrase often used as part of this book’s marketing that chimed deeply with me is this: ‘At a time when toxic individualism is rending our society at every level, Us provides the tools to find our way back to each other through authentic connection and fierce intimacy.’ It’s a big question – how much are we our own person, and how deeply must we connect?

Kevin Ashton’s latest book is called How to Fly a Horse, and, if nothing else, that’s a title that will get you curious. Kevin is also the guy who named the Internet of Things, and he’s been a key player in its evolution. Before any idea becomes a big deal, though, it starts as a crackpot’s mad imaginings. Even though the IoT was an idea that nobody really got, it was one that Kevin couldn’t get rid of, and he had a self-created sense of urgency that said, ‘If I don’t act on this now, I never will.’

Kevin reads two pages from ‘Finding the Mother Tree’ by Suzanne Simard. [reading begins at 19:50]

Hear us discuss:

  • What it takes to cross the threshold: “Life is too short to get wrapped up in doing things just because you want the glory.” [24:57]
  • Knowing when it’s time to move on: “Don’t be a cliche.” [27:43]
  • “It’s okay to move on from one thing before you move on to another.” [34:57]
  • What we can learn from trees: “Trees are intelligent.” [35:07]

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Suzanne Simard | Finding the Mother Tree: Discovering the Wisdom of the Forest

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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