Episode Date October 24, 2023
Featured Guest Stefan Bucher
Featured Book "The Salmon of Doubt  " by Douglas Adams

Episode Summary

Stefan Bucher reading from Douglas Adams’ The Salmon of Doubt, and discussing how beautiful it is to be an outsider.

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I often get asked how I sold more than a million copies of The Coaching Habit. I wish I had one, but, of course, there is no singular answer – just a combination of things going well and a healthy dose of magic fairy dust. One thing we got right, though, is the design of the book itself. So many books feel heavy – a wall of text – and I wanted a book that felt lighter, accessible, and non-intimidating. In whatever you’re working on, what experience are you creating?

Stefan Butcher is an acclaimed graphic designer and illustrator who likes designing books, and questions. When I found him through his wonderful book, 344 Questions: The Creative Person’s Do-It-Yourself Guide to Insight, Survival, and Artistic Fulfillment, I already knew we would get along.

Stefan reads two pages from ‘The Salmon of Doubt’ by Douglas Adams. [reading begins at 19:35]

Hear us discuss:

  • Disrupting the status quo: “I’m weird … but I’m not a threat to anybody, I’m just trying to make my thing happen and help others do the same.” [9:23]
  • Performative competence versus embodied competence. [13:29]
  • How to keep your heart open: “It’s not the pain that kills you, it’s the numbness.” [24:22]
  • The difficult choice of what to work on. [28:40]
  • The essence of collaboration: “We are each other’s keeper.” [33:31]

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Mentioned Episodes | Ep.99 –  Mia Birdsong: The Sacred and The Mundane | Ep. 49 – Jessica Abel: How to Survive Being Creative

Stefan Bucher | Website | Letterheads | 344 Questions: The Creative Person’s Do-It-Yourself Guide to Insight, Survival, and Artistic Fulfillment

Douglas Adams | The Salmon of Doubt

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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