Episode Date November 30, 2021
Featured Guest Kim Scott
Featured Book "Man’s Search For Meaning" by Viktor E. Frankl

Episode Summary

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.

Kim Scott reading from Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search For Meaning and discussing changing your behaviour to make the world a better place.

‘We shape our buildings; thereafter they shape us,’ is a quote I often come back to. It reminds me that we’re creatures of the systems in which we exist. We are defined by our relationships, both inside and outside of work. The question I sit with is: What’s needed to find, carve out, and fight for freedom, justice, and dignity – not just for you, but more provocatively, for others? What do you do, when you uncover and decide to own your biases and prejudices?

If you’ve ever worked in an organisation and thought that you could probably do a better job of getting or giving feedback, you may have heard of my guest: Kim Scott, author of Radical Candor, and a wonderful new book called Just Work.

Kim reads two pages from ‘Man’s Search For Meaning’ by Viktor Frankl. [reading begins at 10:50]

Hear us discuss:

  • The perpetrator versus victim perspective. [17:49]
  • Is freedom a double-edged sword? [20:06]
  • Owning and moving beyond victimhood. [22:50]
  • The public response to Just Work: “Bias is not meaning it, prejudice is meaning it, and bullying is being mean.” [24:06]
  • The proper response to having your bias interrupted: “You can’t do right if you don’t know what you’re doing wrong.” [27:25]
  • How effective is ‘cancel culture’?: “We are pattern makers, and we can change the pattern.” [29:13]

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Kim Scott | Twitter | Radical Candor: Fully Revised & Updated Edition: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity | Just Work: How to Root Out Bias, Prejudice, and Bullying to Build a Kick-Ass Culture of Inclusivity

Viktor Frankl | Man’s Search For Meaning

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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