Episode Date March 29, 2022
Featured Guest Dave Stachowiak
Featured Book "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie

Episode Summary

Dave Stachowiak reading from Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People and discussing being a student, rather than a teacher.

Michael’s new book How to Begin: Start Doing Something that Matters is now available at www.HowToBegin.com.

A famous quote by Albert Schweitzer talks about how small and obscure deeds are far more powerful than public acts that receive acclaim. It goes: ‘[The public acts] were like the foam on the waves of the deep ocean.’ Applying this metaphor to the world of leadership, what’s just foam on the waves, and what’s the sinuous currents of the deep ocean?

A great podcast that I often listen to – and one that I have been a guest on four times – is Coaching for Leaders, hosted by Dave Stachowiak. This podcast is the portal for his Coaching for Leaders Academy, which helps managers and executives develop leadership excellence. Dave is someone who, I think, is a masterful surfer: he knows the foam and the waves, but he also knows the deep ocean.

Dave reads two pages from ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People’ by Dale Carnegie. [reading begins at 20:55]

Hear us discuss:

  • “Talk to the people listening.” [11:21]
  • ‘We all think we’re more polarised than we actually are.’ [26:29]
  • Staying present to discomfort. [30:24]
  • The structure of the Coaching for Leaders Academy: “We learn best when we’re struggling with something.” [37:50]
  • Finding struggle to keep learning: “Seeing your mistakes is one of the most important parts of the learning process.” [40:13]

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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