Episode Date September 20, 2022
Featured Guest Will Storr
Featured Book "Incognito" by David Eagleman

Episode Summary

Will Storr reading from David Eagleman’s Incognito, and discussing status & storytelling.

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I’m working on a new book about how to strengthen working relationships, so I’ve been consuming a lot of content around the subject. I can divide the teachers I’ve been learning from into two different camps. First are the mechanics; the people laying out what to do. They’re okay, but I prefer the storytellers; the people who realize that stories, not rules, are what change people. It is both an extraordinary and a learnable thing to know how to tell a good story.

Will Storr is a storyteller, and the award-winning author of 6 critically acclaimed books including Selfie, The Science of Storytelling, and most recently, The Status Game. The Times called him, “One of our best journalists of ideas.”

Will reads two pages from ‘Incognito’ by David Eagleman. [reading begins at 11:58]

Hear us discuss:

  • “You’re not living a story, you’re playing a game.” [5:37]
  • The danger of writing yourself as the hero: “You’ve got to accept that you might be wrong about things.”  [16:47]
  • The positives of the hero-making brain: “I would argue that a certain amount of comforting delusion is good.” [21:05]
  • How to manage your status: “Status isn’t about being rich or famous, it’s about feeling like you have value.” [23:59]
  • The connection between the ‘I’ and the ‘we.’ [29:36]

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Resources:

Will Storr | Website | The Status Game: On Human Life and How to Play It | The Science of Storytelling: Why Stories Make Us Human and How to Tell Them Better

David Eagleman | Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain

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Michael Bungay Stanier

Michael Bungay Stanier

I'm the author of five books that have collectively sold more than a million copies. I'm the founder of Box of Crayons, a learning and development company that helps organizations move from advice-driven to curiosity-led. I'm the host of the *2 Pages with MBS* podcast.

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